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LSB#:
140407TO02
Make: Colt
Model: 1911 A1
Serial Number: 911208
Year of Manufacture: 1943
Caliber: .45 ACP
Action Type: Single Action, Semi-Automatic with Removable Magazine
Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “Ithaca Gun Co., Inc. / Ithaca N. Y.” The left side of the frame behind the trigger is marked “FJA” and “P” and marked at the front of the trigger guard with a “+” Ithaca proof mark. The “FJA” mark is the final inspection mark of Lt. Col. Frank J. Atwood, inspector for Ithaca and Remington Rand. The right side of the slide is marked “M 1911 A1 U.S. Army” and the top of the slide is marked with a “P” proof in front of the rear sight. The right side of the frame is marked “United States Property / No. 911208” and “M 1911 A1 U.S. Army” and at the rear behind the grip panel with an Ordnance Inspection Stamp. The right front of the trigger guard is marked “O”. The left side of the barrel lug is marked “P” and the right side “HS”, identifying the barrel as one of the High Standard barrels supplied to Ithaca.
Barrel Length: 5”
Sights / Optics: The pistol is mounted with a square notched rear sight dovetailed into the slide and a short blade with a slight serrated ramp front sight fixed to the slide.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered reddish brown plastic. The checkering is sharp with a very minor mar on the left side of the grip. The grips rate in about Excellent condition.
Type of Finish: This pistol has a Parkerized finish.
Finish Originality: The finish is original.
Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore.
Overall Condition: This pistol retains about 93% of its metal finish. There is thinning on the edges of the slide, frame, slide release and safety. The slide and frame each show a few light marks in the finish with a mark underneath the slide release and a long mark on the right side of the frame behind the grip. The barrel still has most of its bluing, but there is some thinning in the port area. The hammer checkering and safety serrations show light wear. The serrations on the mainspring housing, slide and slide release are sharp. The grip screws are sharp. The markings are clear, except for the Ordnance Inspection stamp on the right side of the frame, which was lightly struck. Overall, this pistol rates in about Fine condition.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. It has both a manual and grip safety and the trigger pull has a very small amount of creep. The slide is tight to the frame. We did not fire this pistol. The pistol has a lanyard ring on the bottom of mainspring housing.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with one blued 7-round magazine. It shows only light handling marks and is in Excellent condition. Also included are paperwork from its owner and a reproduction of his Air Medal. The paperwork consists of the discharge papers of Joseph John O’Hara Jr. and other paperwork showing he was a 2nd Lieutenant and navigator in the 369th Bombardment Squadron of the 306th Bomb Group, with references showing his squadron saw action on D-Day. His discharge papers show he received an honorable Discharge in 1975 as a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force and cited his previous service in the Army Air Corps during WWII, his various medals and training. The paperwork is in Excellent condition, except for the listing of airmen, which is a fuzzy copy and in Good condition. The medal is believed to be a replacement for his original medal, which was lost. It comes in a black plastic presentation case with gold trim marked “United States / Of America” on the lid in gold letters. The inside of the lid is covered with white plastic and the bottom is covered with gray felt. Included in the case are the medal, with wrap brooch, a ribbon and lapel pin. The medal is a bronze compass rose of sixteen points that has a fleur-de-lis design in the top point. The front has an American Eagle, swooping downward and clutching a lightning bolt in each talon. The reverse has a raised disk on the compass rose, left blank for the recipient’s name and rank. The ribbon has a broad stripe of ultramarine blue in the center flanked on either side by a wide stripe of golden orange, and with narrow strip of ultramarine blue at the edges. The case is in Excellent condition and the medal is in Fine condition with light tarnish.
Our Assessment: This is a U.S. Government marked Ithaca Model 1911 A1 pistol made in 1943 during WWII. It is in about Fine condition with a thinning on the edges of the slide and a few handling marks. It has its original finish and is correctly marked for a pistol made by Ithaca in 1943. The barrel is made by High Standard, who supplied Ithaca with barrels in that time frame. It has a great bore with sharp rifling. This pistol includes documentation on the original owner who served as a 2nd Lieutenant with the 306th Bomb Group during 1944 and went on to become a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force, and a reproduction of his Air Medal. This is a highly collectable package. Ithaca produced fewer pistols that either Colt or Remington Rand during WWII, and you don’t see very many in such good condition with the original finish. If the collectors don’t jump on this one, it will be a long time before they see another documented package of a WWII 1911A1 Ithaca in this condition.

Duplicate Serial Numbers: Colt manufactured 60,000 pistols in the Ithaca serial number range (804), 41,696 in the Remington Rand serial number range (900), and 4,171 in the US&S serial number range (10896). Ithaca and Remington Rands where not manufactured or shipped in numerical order. His initials will also be found on rifles and shotguns made by Remington, the 1911A1's made by Remington Rand and military vehicles. The 1911A1 Ithaca pictured on this webpage is one of the 30,000 pistols that was produced in late 1943 in it's serial number range. It has a 'HS' or High Standard stamped barrel.

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LSB#: 170224LR17

Make: The frame was made by Remington Rand (falls in Remington Rand serial range.). The slide was made by Ithaca.

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Model: 1911-A1

Serial Number: 1025385

Year of Manufacture: 1943 (Pg. 394 of Clawson’s “Colt .45 Service Pistols”)

Caliber: .45 A.C.P.

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Action Type: Single Action Semi-Auto with Removable Magazine

Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “ITHACA GUN COMPANY / ITHACA, N.Y.”. The left of the frame below the magazine release and the top of the slide in front of the rear sight are marked with a “P” acceptance proof. The left side of the frame above the magazine release is marked “FJA” (Frank J. Atwood Lt. Col., Sub-Inspector for Ithaca, Remington Rand and Union Switch 1942-1944). The right side of the frame is marked “UNITED STATES PROPERTY / NO. 1025385”, “M1911 A1 U.S. ARMY” and at the rear behind the grip with an Ordnance Wheel. The flat on the top of the frame in front of the hammer is marked “G” and the round part under the barrel is marked “T”, “T” and with an inspection mark. The left side of the barrel lug is marked “P” and the right side “HS”, indicating it was made by High Standard, who supplied barrels to Ithaca and Remington.

Barrel Length: 5”

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a short blade with a mild ramp that has fine serrations fixed to the slide. The rear sight is a square notch dovetailed into the slide.

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Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered reddish brown plastic. There is a light handling mark in the smooth bottoms of the left grip. The checkering shows very light wear with a mar in the front lower corner of the left grip. The grips rate in about Excellent overall condition.

Type of Finish: The pistol has a grey parkerized finish and the barrel has a black oxide (blued) finish. The mainspring housing is knurled. The front half of the slide is slightly darker than the back half, a result of the heat treating process on the slide.

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Finish Originality: The finish is original with sharp, clear stampings on the frame and slide.

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Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore.

Overall Condition: This pistol retains about 90-92% of its metal finish. There is thinning on the front edges of the slide and frame, the top edges of the slide and the edges of the trigger guard. There are several light handling marks scattered over the slide and frame, with a scratch through the finish on the left side of the trigger guard and a mark through the finish underneath the slide latch. The slide serrations are relatively sharp. The hammer knurling shows moderate wear, the recoil spring plug knurling shows light wear and the magazine release knurling is sharp. The knurling in the mainspring housing shows light wear. The grip screw heads are sharp and the markings are clear. Overall, this pistol rates in about Fine Plus condition.

Mechanics: The trigger pull is crisp. The slide is very tight to the frame. This pistol has manual and grip safeties, and this model does not have a magazine disconnect. The action functions correctly. We have not fired this pistol.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with a single blued magazine. The magazine is unmarked and roughly finished, with deep scratches under the finish on the sides and floorplate. The magazine is in about Fine condition.

Our Assessment: > The 1911 and 1911-A1 pistols served the military of the United States from 1911 to 1985, through two World Wars and the Korean and Vietnam wars. They gained a reputation as a reliable handgun with plenty of stopping power, and are held in high regard by those who have used them. Early in WWII, Colt couldn’t produce enough pistols for the military, and in 1942, contracts were let to Remington Rand, Ithaca, and the Union Switch and Signal Company to produce pistols. Ithaca didn’t procure enough manufacturing equipment to meet their schedules, and early pistols produced in 1942 used WWI surplus Colt receivers, and in early 1943 used slides and receivers purchased from Colt. By July 1943, full production was finally achieved. This pistol is a hybrid with a Remington Rand frame and an Ithaca slide. The finish is original and we couldn’t find any arsenal rework marks to explain the Ithaca slide on the Remington frame. The barrel is a WWII barrel, made by High Standard, who made barrels for both Ithaca and Remington Rand. The pistol is in about Fine Plus condition with about 90-92% of its original finish remaining. The bore is bright with sharp rifling and no erosion. This pistol is basically a parts gun, but its nice finish should still garner a lot of interest from the collectors of WWI and WWII pistols, some of whom will be interested in buying the pistol just for the parts. This pistol is also a nice find for anyone interested in a top quality pistol. It is perfect for home protection, SASS Wild Bunch side matches and auto pistol matches at your local club.